German or Czech 3,7cm?

[FX]

Hello,

anyone can identify these two 3,7cm shells?

thanks
FX

[Munfrosch]

i would say german made für captured cz guns.

[rigby]

The designation from these shells is "3,7cm Pzgr.34 (t) umg." and the colors are wrong.

[Munfrosch]

picture :wink:

[FX]

thank you very much!

Gruss
FX

[zünder]

It's a modified version of the Czech 3,7 cm Pzgr. 34 (t), as shot by:
3,7 cm Pak 34 (t), 3,7 cm Kw.K. 34 (t), 3,7 cm Pak 37 (t)(Skoda made Model 1937) and 3,7 cm Pak 38 (t).

This shell was fitted with a BdZ 5103* instead of the Czech P.34 (t) and had a different german pattern drivingband.
Weight: 815 gramms.


Source:

H.Dv. 481/127
D. 435/1, Anlage 39
"Germany's Guns" by Terry Gander.

[rigby]

one more drawing :D

[FX]

thanks again for the drawings

last question: what does mean "umg"?

FX

[zünder]

"Umgeändert"

[FX]

Hi again,

i have just received an email from the owner of these shells, and he tells me the red and green one is a very rare "anti-concrete" type, found in Normandie so it is impossible that the round had been repainted!

i'm confused... :?

Gruss
FX

[megatron]

Hi again,

i have just received an email from the owner of these shells, and he tells me the red and green one is a very rare "anti-concrete" type, found in Normandie so it is impossible that the round had been repainted!

i'm confused... :?

Gruss
FX


it is repainted! wrong color and bad job. :wink:

[zünder]

@FX: if i were you, i would not rely too much on the knowledge of the owner :wink:

[FX]

Hi,

well if i was looking for buying these shells i wouldn't be so confused, but here this is just a friend who ask me what kind of shells it is... he has received them as a gift and they directly come from Normandie, in a farm.

But thanks anyway i will tell him they are repainted!

Gruss
FX