Drawings from Toulouse

[MK108]

:p
When ATE working with german control
about 8x50r
Best regards , dan

[MK108]

:)

[mauser]

Hi,

It is a nice drawing from the 8mm Lebel.
The info I can give you, the drawing comes from Hamburg.
You see in the middle of the drawing the factory logo HAK,
It means: Hanseatisches Ketten- Werk GmbH Hamburg-Langenhorn. code asr.
Some steel 8mm Lebel headstamps.
Left; French code “TE” Cartoucherie de Toulouse
Center; German code “pas” Cartoucherie de Toulouse
Right; German code “oyj” Atelier de Constuction Tarbes

Rgds,

mauser

[MK108]

Yes, friend, some détails about :
;)
End 1940, 1941, 1942 : no effectiv production
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Perhaps End of 1942 : Tests or beginning production with german process, using old tool from 1940,
headstamps : TE alone TS 1 40, TE with --
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1943-1944, ATE build more stahl case to brass case, ATS fivty-Fivty 50/50
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Problèm with Pas 4°Trim 44, why ?? : german troup go away Toulouse in August 44
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TS stopped Fab 2° Trim 44
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Bullets:
32 N french and HAK produc
P (armour piercing)
T (Tracer)no box see...
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Packages in German or in french languages ..
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Different Headstamps specimens noted :
allways in reverse 12 9 6 3 à clock

Tarbes TS 1 40 32 N Stahl
with old tool ...
Tarbes TS 1 43 32 N Stahl
Tarbes TS 2 43 32 N Brass
Tarbes OYJ 44 1 St 32 N Stahl
Tarbes OYJ 44 1 32 N Brass
Tarbes OYJ 44 2 St 32 N Brass
this with error in hstp St (stahl with brass case)
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Toulouse TE 2 C 40 32 N Stahl
Toulouse TE 32 N Stahl
no date
Toulouse TE - - 32 N Stahl
3 models using old stamp tool ?
Toulouse TE 4 G 43 32 N Stahl
Toulouse Pas 44 1 ms 32 N Brass
ms = messing = brass
Toulouse TE 1 G 44 32 N Stahl
Toulouse TE 44 2 St 32 N Stahl
Toulouse TE 44 2 St Traçant Stahl
Toulouse TE 44 3 St 32 N Stahl
Toulouse TE 44 3 St Traçant Stahl
4 mixed hstp french Te with german st !!
Toulouse Pas 44 ms 32 N Brass
Toulouse Pas 44 4 St 32 N Stahl
Toulouse Pas 44 4 St Traçant Stahl
4°Trim 44, why ?? : german troup go away Toulouse in August 44
Toulouse TE 44 4 F 32 N Stahl
Toulouse TE 4 C 44 32 N Stahl

Best regards dan