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PzGr40
09.11.2009, 09:18
At yesterdays Dutch collectors meeting I got this (fully inert) Spanish 88mm M64 H.E. cartridge, used in the 88mm Flak 18, 36/37.
The shellcase is marked 88mm M64, Lot FNT 105, 1971.
The primer in the shellcase however is not of the German type, but more like the US type and is marked M55-A FAT, 5-69
The fuze is the PD (Point Detonating) M51A5, and is clearly of US design and is marked PD M51A5 , Los FNT-54-72
Looking at the cartridge, it occurs to be a mixture of German and US design.

I allready found out FNT stands for Fabrique National Toledo, however , according to the code book this factory used this code between 1928 and 1959.

Who can tell me more about this cartridge? I hope one of our Spanish members knows more.
Regards DJH

rigby
09.11.2009, 09:57
The spanish 8,8cm HE Cartridge call M67, the number M64 ist the number from the case. FNT is not Fabrica Nacional de Toledo it is Fabrica Nacional de Trubia.
Here are pages from a spanish Manual.

PzGr40
09.11.2009, 10:54
Thank you Rob, that's what I call a fast reply. Untill what year have 8,8cm Flak guns been used in Spain?
Is this a rare cartridge , or are they quite common in Spain?
Regards DJH

PzGr40
09.11.2009, 14:06
Ps, do you happen to know what type of powder is used? Sticks (like th German type) or granular?
Regards DJH

rigby
09.11.2009, 14:39
This Manual is from 1971.
The only what i found about the powder is that it is tubular powder.
This cartridge is in spain also rar.

PzGr40
09.11.2009, 18:29
Thanks for the info Rob.
Regards DJH

hauptmanngurke
15.11.2009, 11:54
In spain it is possible to find the projectile, but is much current fint projectiles for german fuses prduction or spanish clones.
ceased operating in spain of 8,8 in 1988!

Thanks for the info Rob.
Regards DJH