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memo
09.01.2012, 22:42
Last week i finally found a complete 53mm Gruson. It is a full disarmed set of Case, shell and a perfect fuze.
All of them are in excellent and perfect condition. I still cannot understand how and who had preserved them.

So , let me show you some pics , whit my text of course( if you find a mistakes ,or you want to make some notes--I will be very ,very pleased and grateful)

First of all --the complete view of this shell:
http://www.prikachi.com/images/244/4232244M.jpg

Next pic is presenting the markings of the Case....I am not 100% sure , but I suppose that these markings are with Romanian origin...
http://www.prikachi.com/images/247/4232247Z.jpg


The next two pics are with markings of the shell. On the first pic you can see the markings of the Bucarest Arsenal...or so called : Arsenalul Armatei..and the year-1913.
http://www.prikachi.com/images/248/4232248y.jpg

You can see that the painting is the original one...

http://www.prikachi.com/images/250/4232250J.jpg


And of course , the fuze....
http://www.prikachi.com/images/254/4232254a.jpg

The Fuse itself ....and disassembled :
http://www.prikachi.com/images/264/4232264G.jpg

http://www.prikachi.com/images/265/4232265z.jpg

http://www.prikachi.com/images/268/4232268k.jpg

memo
09.01.2012, 23:07
Of course i have i few more cases , with different markings, from the same gun...53mm Romanian Fahrpanzer-Gruson.

Some trench-art cases:
http://www.prikachi.com/images/257/4232257h.jpg

The Markings.......

First is also Romanian, from 1902 -
http://www.prikachi.com/images/258/4232258s.jpg

Second also is Romanian , but from 1892....

http://www.prikachi.com/images/260/4232260R.jpg

Third is an ordinary case , but with German markings -PatronenFabrik Karlsruhe--1890, February:

http://www.prikachi.com/images/261/4232261y.jpg

memo
09.01.2012, 23:18
Here i just want to show you a very interesting trench-art Lamp....The body is from the same cartridge-53*176, also a Romanian one .also the shell is a grenade ,but it needs some repair , because i suppose ,the previous owner did not preserve it very well....


http://www.prikachi.com/images/407/4232407A.jpg

http://www.prikachi.com/images/255/4232255u.jpg

http://www.prikachi.com/images/256/4232256L.jpg

The marking of the Case of the Lamp:
Romanian , from 1892...with very interesting index "L" ---If somebody knows what it means , it will be very interesting for me to understand that...Thanks in advance :

http://www.prikachi.com/images/263/4232263t.jpg

memo
09.01.2012, 23:41
And some info in plus....

These guns were ordered by Romanian Government in 1890-1895, to place them in the Bucurest Fortress. Most of them were Fahrpanzers, but Romanians ordered some guns on a field carriage ...some years after that , they disassembled some of the fahrpanzers, and placed the guns on the field carriages which were made in the Bucurest Arsenal....
When the city of Tutrakan , was given to Romania , after the Second Balkan war , The Romanians make that city a very fortified stronghold and they placed there few batteries of 53mm Fahrpanzers , to prevent , and to fire against infantry assaults.

When the ww1 started, I mean the war between Kingdom of Bulgaria and the Kingdom of Romania in the First days of september 1916, the Bulgarians take the city from the first attempt , and we take some untouched 53 mm Fahrpanzers. Note that at that time , The Bulgarian Fahrpanzers(Gruson) were under 57mm cal.

Here you can see a Bulgarian military book from 1927 with a very exact description of the Romanian 53mm infantry gun(Gruson)...
http://www.prikachi.com/images/240/4245240V.jpg

And the page with the description of the Shell....
http://www.prikachi.com/images/245/4245245C.jpg



And here you can see a pic from the first days of september 1916 , with Bulgarian Officers and soldiers near captured Romanian 53mm Fahrpanzer Gruson......
http://www.prikachi.com/images/246/4245246R.jpg





Finally Pls , excuse me if i have some mistakes...Thanks!))

x
10.01.2012, 00:16
Memo, what great images! Thanks a lot for sharing these and sheding some light on these very little known Romanian variants.